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New Law Order

Date de sortie : 2026-02-03
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Date de sortie : 2026-02-03
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Building a World Litigation Empire

Building a World Litigation Empire

John Quinn proved the legal industry orthodoxy wrong. In a world obsessed with the "full-service" law firm model—where litigation can feel like a service arm for lucrative corporate retainers—Quinn bet the house on a radical idea: a global firm dedi
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John Quinn proved the legal industry orthodoxy wrong. In a world obsessed with the "full-service" law firm model—where litigation can feel like a service arm for lucrative corporate retainers—Quinn bet the house on a radical idea: a global firm dedicated exclusively to legal disputes. Today, Quinn Emanuel is a litigation behemoth with over 1,000 lawyers, generating billions in revenue without closing a single M&A deal.
In this conversation, Quinn joins Joel and John to share the unlikely origin story of the firm, which began in 1986 with a business plan that completely failed. He explains the crucial pivot away from trying to be outside general counsel to focusing narrowly on what they did best: trying cases. He reveals how this specialization led to their greatest strategic advantage—a "conflict-free" platform allowing them to sue major global banks and institutions that traditional white-shoe firms couldn't touch.
Quinn also opens up about the firm’s aggressive talent strategy, detailing the game-changing hire of superstar Kathleen Sullivan, and explains why they have generally avoided merging with other firms in favor of organic growth. Finally, he offers some skepticism on the AI hype in legal services, arguing why artificial intelligence won't replace human judgment required for high-stakes advocacy anytime soon.
Guest: John Quinn is the Founder and Chairman of Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan LLP, the largest business litigation firm in the world.
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Id. d’épisode : 1000747887202
GUID : https://blubrry.com/3956983/151962662/building-a-world-litigation-empire/
Date de publication : 3/2/2026 à 17:30:00

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New Law Order is a podcast and limited interview series about the coming shake-up in legal services. Hosted by lawyer and TalksOnLaw founder Joel Cohen and Yale Law School Professor John Morley, the show interrogates the technologies, business models, and incentives quietly—and not so quietly—rewiring the legal industry.
Each episode is a candid conversation with someone actively changing how law gets done: managing partners challenging Biglaw orthodoxy, founders building alternative legal platforms, and thinkers willing to question even sacred assumptions. With insight, skepticism, and a sense of humor, New Law Order examines what’s breaking, what’s surviving, and what the legal industry would rather not talk about—but must.
Guests include Brad Karp (Chairman, Paul Weiss), John Quinn (Founder, Quinn Emanuel), Chris Bogart (CEO, Burford Capital), Michael Gerstenzang (Managing Partner, Cleary Gottlieb), and Jeffrey Toobin (author and legal analyst).

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